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Matt Cooper

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The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Because what you explain brilliantly in the book is about the importance of maps and how in that period...

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

So many of the things that would have been noted and measured and put down into this graphical form were gone, disappeared.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Which is why Tomás, your central character, was employed because as well as being able to draw the maps, he could speak to the locals and get the information.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Like, stolen.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

And that's what comes out really strongly as well.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

I think people will be really taken by almost the casual nature in which the names of places, the Irish names, were erased, anglicised.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Even Tomás is known as Tommy to his British paymasters.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

There's an awful lot as well, almost casual cruelty depicted in the book.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Even, again, one of the central characters as a young girl, her name is changed when she's thrown into the workhouse.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Without any regard for the fact that she has a name that she was given and that people might come back for her.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

The cruelty as well of the coffin ship being sent off to Australia, children being in the bottom of this boat.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

It's actually quite shocking.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Were you shocked when you went back to discover about this era, to bring it to the page?

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Well, I got the impression it wasn't even just a slip-up.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

It was just that people didn't care.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Yeah.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

And people didn't care for the poor and the starving.

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

Did you get angry as you researched as to what had happened?

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

What did it do for your own sense of Irishness?

The Last Word with Matt Cooper
Maggie O’Farrell On The Phenomenon Of ‘Hamnet’ And Her New Novel ‘Land’

I mean, you were born in Derry, but your parents were from the south, weren't they?