Matt Cox

So what Zach would do is he would.

That's the minor scale of it.

That's not good enough.

So listen, what Zach's, one of Zach's scams was Zach would have someone go open up a bank account using a fake ID.

So they would open up a bank account.

They would, he then put like $10,000 in the bank.

Then when they got the debit card mailed to them, Zach would clone it.

He'd mail it several states away.

Someone would walk into, let's say, a post office, and they would use it at the point of sale, and they would buy, let's say, $10,000 worth of money orders.

He would then call the person who had opened up the bank account.

and say, go in the bank and try and get out $200.

So they would walk in the bank and they'd say, hey, I need to get out $200.

The teller would pull up their account and say, wow, you don't have, you have like whatever, $12 in the account or whatever.

They have almost no money in the account.

And they'd say, what are you talking about?

I didn't, I have $10,000 in that account.

They'd say, no, it was just removed.

When?

30 minutes ago.

Where?