Matt Damon

He's a wild fella.

And that pursuit of greatness, I'm sure, has cost him a lot of shit in his personal life.

Yeah.

But when he knocks D-Pay out and then did the Trump dance in front of the whole world, for that moment, he's on top of the world.

But then again, it's like the same thing.

As soon as you get back, what's next?

There's another challenge.

It doesn't matter how many people love you now.

It's not good enough.

There's someone else looming.

You got to beat this guy.

I'll never forget, I interviewed Matt Hughes after he lost to BJ Penn.

He lost the welterweight title to BJ Penn.

And I'm interviewing him inside the Octagon.

He said, I'm going to be honest with you, it was actually a relief.

And he goes, the pressure of being the champion and having someone chasing you for so ever in the whole world chasing you.

He goes, I'm going to be I thought it was an incredibly brave moment for a guy to say that who is, you know, just this fucking amazing human being, this warrior to say, I just got to be honest.

It's a relief.

Losing my title feels like a relief.

And I was like, wow.