Matt Damon

You know, boxing's bad.

You know, it's like, you have less options.

MMA's slightly better because, especially if you're a grappler, you can take guys down and you can beat them up on the ground.

But it's ultimately you're paying a price.

Yeah.

Sure.

But for that glory, for that one moment when they win and the fucking 16,000 people are on their feet screaming, there's probably no drug like that that could ever reproduce it.

And those guys chase that high their entire life.

And then after it's over, they feel oddly detached.

Right.

You can make films until you're 100 years old.

You can make great films forever.

You can do the thing that you love forever.

They have a little window, a little window of greatness.

Well, there's an interesting story about Vitor Belfort.

So Vitor Belfort was he won the UFC heavyweight tournament when he was 19 years old.

That was like the first event I ever worked at in 1997.

I mean, he was like one of the all time greats for sure.

But as he was getting into his 30s, he was starting to decline.

Then the UFC allowed fighters to use testosterone replacement therapy.