Matt Damon

And we got told, go talk to them.

That's the benefit of an independent podcast is that, like, with me, I don't talk to anybody I don't want to talk to.

It's just, like, I literally do the whole thing on my phone.

I go, oh, yeah, that sounds cool, and that's it.

But, like, that, I think, means a lot.

It's also there's not a lot of opportunities in the real world to have long conversations with people.

So people are kind of starving for that.

Yeah, it was a weird time.

It's like we have more access to information than ever before, but so much of it is just horseshit.

It's hard to stay balanced.

And I think that's why it's good to listen to people just talk.

And then you recognize the flaws in their thinking.

You feel ego.

You feel deception, bullshit.

Pete Buttigieg actually talked about that being dangerous on podcasts.

He's like, because you go on there and you have your points, but you'll get revealed over the course of a few hours.

Like, you can only stick to these lines.

Sometimes you find out they're full of shit just by having them talk about other things.

You know like tell me do you like cooking you know like just like and then you just see like some concocted They're thinking what makes me look good if about cooking Do I cook or do I not what would I write that make me feminine or does it make me open to culturally insist?

Yeah What do you like to cook man?