Matt Forde

How many proud moments in your life?

So let's contrast him to Andy Burnham.

What can we look for in Andy Burnham's style of communication?

So my Burnham impression isn't one of my best, but he has quite a soft, quite a slight sort of hesitancy, isn't there, Ria?

You know, he will ask himself questions a lot, won't he?

And I think one of the things we really need to do is improve things, don't we?

And I think having conversations like this really helps, doesn't it?

And that can sound consensual, can't it?

But it can also sound quite unsure as well.

And he will also go from levity to serious very quickly, you know.

Nothing I love more than coming on here and talking to you and having a laugh and talking about language.

I think it's great.

But in all seriousness, if the Houthis don't stop doing what they're doing, we will use lethal force.

The pivot is fast, so look out for that.

But he has certainly a more... It's quite a gentle way that he speaks, quite a soft...

pleasant voice.

I mean, I think you're right.

I don't think, linguistically, him and Starmer are quite similar in many ways.

And there's a sort of nervousness about them.

They don't have that assuredness that, say, Blair had.