Matt Fradd

Because it's almost like

I don't know, I feel like a lot of debates that take place, I'm not saying there's no value to the whatever podcast debates, but a lot of those things just feel like train wrecks on purpose.

They are to me, yeah.

Right, they're on purpose.

Like, let's make this the most disgusting, down in the dirt, down in the mud debate we can, because that's what people want.

Like, they don't want the old William and Craig debates where everyone had a lot of time and could have the time to lay out their position, you know?

You have this stoic demeanor where like that fellow you debated who sounded like a prosperity preacher who was Muslim.

Hassan Shibley.

Who I honestly think advice to him, if he's willing to take it, you seem like a nice person, but the way you speak, it's like, it's too performative.

He would just speak normally.

I think you seem great.

Cause there was a few times he would speak normally.

I thought he sounds like a lovely fellow.

Like I'd listen to him.

But when he would talk like this, I'm like, what are you doing?

Anyway, you've got like this death stare, like this death psychotic, no offense to David Wood, stare at your opponent where I wouldn't debate you about my middle name, dude.

Yeah.

It's my poker face, I guess.

I don't know.

Maybe in that situation, it's okay.