Matt Freeman

And Hegseth is just an egomaniac.

I mean, you think Trump is an egomaniac.

Like, Hegseth is literally just, like, project strength at all times.

Like, he's a video game character.

It's absurd.

I think...

I didn't mean to cut you off, I'm sorry.

I think it's just factually not true that Claude is the woke AI, right?

You never know how PR is working because if it's not working on you, you assume it's not working, which is a very bad conclusion to make.

It's like saying Coca-Cola ads don't work.

It's like, well, you're ordering it though.

So I do feel like the attempt to smear Anthropic as being woke is extremely hand-handed, like more than usual, because there's just no basis.

It's been really weird and disappointing.

Go ahead.

He's pro-animal welfare, for sure.

But I don't think he's leftist.

And also, it's been funny.

This is a bit of a side parenthetical, but the Ilya Seskovor deposition stuff came out a month or two ago, and it just really shed a lot of light on the process of that whole debacle from the inside and

It really just seemed like the element that caught Ilya off guard was he really thought that when he put out a detailed documented memo containing all of the lying that Sam was doing, that everyone would just be like, shit, man, this guy, this is unacceptable.

This is unacceptable behavior.