Matt Gaetz

But at the end, what society would you replace with what we've set up in the Western world?

Is there some vision of the way civilizations were built in Africa or the Far East that we would gleefully adopt?

I think that this is shifting the other way.

I really think during the excesses of the post-George Floyd era, people attached so strongly to identity.

And I sense a real pushback against that.

And you talk about learning it, right?

The main place people learn still is in the school system.

Right now, public education is essentially a failing enterprise.

And all of the innovation is to take people out of that system.

And then people will self-select what they learn.

And that may be more productive.

I'm not saying who cares because that was a disgusting display of, I think, parochial interest that you just saw.

Yes, that's correct.

But we see that often, so I don't get too worked up about it.

The bigger issue is that

Rabbi Yehuda would probably classify you and I as anti-Semitic because we've been critical of some of the policy choices of the Israeli government and that broad application of anti-Semitism, to say anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, to say that even some things in the Bible may be deemed anti-Semitic if they're critical of Jews at any point.

It is created such a curiosity among young people to test those mores and challenge those dogmas.

I think there are a lot of the Mark Levin, Israel First crowd who look at us and say, we're the problem.

Tucker and Matt are the problem.

Actually, we're not the problem.