Matt Gaetz

As we've said, it's an ambition that resurfaces often in one's life.

I don't know.

Again, you assume the Obamas are in charge of that party, so potentially they could move her to another path.

But they'll have a crowded field.

It may be the case that having ancillary people around soaking up votes is good for the ultimate objective.

I can't imagine the Obamas and the Gavin Newsom world would mix well.

That's not really the same vein of the Democratic Party.

Harris?

No, I don't think I do.

I know a lot of people, but I can't say that there was a single member of Congress I ever interacted with that could talk about any private moment or in-depth conversation they'd ever had with Kamala Harris.

Yeah, I think that Democrats believed that there is this vast part of the population whose dream candidate is some combination of Michelle Obama and Oprah.

And like the closest they could get was like bargain basement Kamala Harris to go and achieve that archetype.

And it just didn't didn't work out.

I think that that that was a huge part of it.

And we saw the limits of playing into those those impulses.

with Harris.

Obviously, we're going to see automation in the next three years at a level that you and I have never seen in our lives.

I do.

I believe that automation in transportation, in agriculture, in manufacturing will be the new dominant force in our lives.

And I don't think that's going to be entirely good.