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Matt Gialich

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1659 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

I think this is something we get wrong a lot when we look at companies and we look at markets, which is the market cap.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

It's my same problem with rare earth metals as we go into it, right?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

The market cap for helium-3 is extremely low.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

So helium-3 in 2023 had a total market cap of $5.8 million.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

So yeah, it might be worth $100 million a kilogram or $20 million a kilogram or whatever the number is, but that's not how economics work, right?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

It's supply and demand.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

And if you increase the supply, you lower the demand, thus the cost goes down.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

There's all these people that study this, but again, basic business isn't that hard.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

And sometimes we try to convolute it, it's pretty straightforward.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

Helium-3 has a really small market cap.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

Now, it may grow, and one of the ways we think Helium-3 may grow is with nuclear.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

We've talked about fission reactors being able to use off Helium-3, and there's this whole philosophy how to get there.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

The big problem with that is that nuclear reactors make helium-3.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

It's one of the byproducts of them.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

So we know how to make helium-3 on Earth.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

Really?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

Yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

I don't think there's going to be a supply problem as we go into the future.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

But the cool thing at startups is we all get to make these different theses and bets on what's going to happen.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#226 Matt Gialich - Debunking Aliens in the Ocean, Mining Asteroids and Black Holes

And maybe I'm wrong, right?