Matt Grimm

If you look at them increasing their influence on the global sphere,

If you look at them increasing their influence on the global sphere,

If you look at them increasing their influence on the global sphere,

Yep. Terrifying, isn't it? So I think to your question about, Sean, is it the most evil? Yeah, I think probably, but I think on a global competitive sort of long-term landscape, I think. Should TikTok be banned in the US? 100% absolutely yesterday, if not years ago. Because? Can you get Instagram in China? No. Yeah, end of debate. Is that the right approach? 100% it is.

Yep. Terrifying, isn't it? So I think to your question about, Sean, is it the most evil? Yeah, I think probably, but I think on a global competitive sort of long-term landscape, I think. Should TikTok be banned in the US? 100% absolutely yesterday, if not years ago. Because? Can you get Instagram in China? No. Yeah, end of debate. Is that the right approach? 100% it is.

Yep. Terrifying, isn't it? So I think to your question about, Sean, is it the most evil? Yeah, I think probably, but I think on a global competitive sort of long-term landscape, I think. Should TikTok be banned in the US? 100% absolutely yesterday, if not years ago. Because? Can you get Instagram in China? No. Yeah, end of debate. Is that the right approach? 100% it is.

No, I think it's more complex than that. I think it's that what you are mainstreaming into the central cortex of the American psyche, especially our youth, especially our teenagers, our college-age youth, you're mainlining a certain type of message to them.

No, I think it's more complex than that. I think it's that what you are mainstreaming into the central cortex of the American psyche, especially our youth, especially our teenagers, our college-age youth, you're mainlining a certain type of message to them.

No, I think it's more complex than that. I think it's that what you are mainstreaming into the central cortex of the American psyche, especially our youth, especially our teenagers, our college-age youth, you're mainlining a certain type of message to them.

And I think like there are parallels where it's like if you look at what Twitter now X was pre and post Elon's purchasing, like it's a different tone. It's a different type of thing. They're promoting different content there or they would say not promoting some content. You can see in the zeitgeist how what content is getting promoted through different social media.

And I think like there are parallels where it's like if you look at what Twitter now X was pre and post Elon's purchasing, like it's a different tone. It's a different type of thing. They're promoting different content there or they would say not promoting some content. You can see in the zeitgeist how what content is getting promoted through different social media.

And I think like there are parallels where it's like if you look at what Twitter now X was pre and post Elon's purchasing, like it's a different tone. It's a different type of thing. They're promoting different content there or they would say not promoting some content. You can see in the zeitgeist how what content is getting promoted through different social media.

You see the same thing on Instagram can affect the psyche of a population. And what we are willingly doing is we are willingly letting a strategic adversary control the knobs of

You see the same thing on Instagram can affect the psyche of a population. And what we are willingly doing is we are willingly letting a strategic adversary control the knobs of

You see the same thing on Instagram can affect the psyche of a population. And what we are willingly doing is we are willingly letting a strategic adversary control the knobs of

on what gets mainlined into the psyche of our youth and if you don't think that that has long-term strategic implications for the motivation for the ambition for the direction of a country and man i don't know what to tell you but like if they're going to have their finger on the scale and on the knob control the knob of what's being consumed by the you know overwhelming majority of our of our citizens yeah we shouldn't want it

on what gets mainlined into the psyche of our youth and if you don't think that that has long-term strategic implications for the motivation for the ambition for the direction of a country and man i don't know what to tell you but like if they're going to have their finger on the scale and on the knob control the knob of what's being consumed by the you know overwhelming majority of our of our citizens yeah we shouldn't want it

on what gets mainlined into the psyche of our youth and if you don't think that that has long-term strategic implications for the motivation for the ambition for the direction of a country and man i don't know what to tell you but like if they're going to have their finger on the scale and on the knob control the knob of what's being consumed by the you know overwhelming majority of our of our citizens yeah we shouldn't want it

Your point, though, around traditional media bias and that messaging is 100% accurate. And I think the kind of the democratization of information, like, of course, there are pitfalls. Of course, there are challenges around bias. misinformation. I listened to your interview with Owen at Intercom and talking about free speech and what does it mean and all of that.

Your point, though, around traditional media bias and that messaging is 100% accurate. And I think the kind of the democratization of information, like, of course, there are pitfalls. Of course, there are challenges around bias. misinformation. I listened to your interview with Owen at Intercom and talking about free speech and what does it mean and all of that.