Matt Harris

What were you doing in 2016, Matt?

What were you up to?

Nice, nice, nice.

One of the other headlines of that year, guys, was actually, how did this leak?

It was through, the Panama Papers leaked through like a wider area

You take your 5 million US bucks and you go to the Bahamas.

Yeah, I remember when I was in the UK, I think I've told it on the podcast before, but I'll say it again.

I went to, I worked in financial crime, odd place for me to work.

And I was at a live podcast and it was on Russian shell companies in the UK.

And then at the end of it, they're like, what do you want the next podcast to be?

And it was like shell companies in the British Virgin Islands or New Zealand Trust.

And I was like, wait, what?

Like, why would we do this on New Zealand Trust?

Apparently globally known as a really easy way to launder money.

What kind of people got caught up?

We got Donald Trump.

We got David Cameron.

We got Vladimir Putin, Emma Watson, Stanley Kubrick, Simon Cowell, and like the one that's personally let me down, Jackie Chan.

Like very sad to see him involved in that sort of stuff.

Is that why you see a tonne of stuff mentioned about Delaware?