Matt Henriksen

There you go.

If I'm out here at the recording studio and I have a spike because I drank some juice, I would miss out on it.

And then even something too, like, oh, if I eat the bagel before I run or if I run before the bagel, you can see the trends and how that differs and everything.

Yeah.

That's a perfect segue.

Let's jump into the tool now, the Shine.

How did that development process start?

It's not simply, I can work on this overnight as my PhD project and get it done.

What was the process to kind of develop and understand that this could work as a viable sensor?

Well, it's actually very interesting because that was like the reason between finger sticks and subcutaneous CGMs was the fact that having the access directly to the blood allowed you to measure the blood circulation.

levels in the blood directly versus some sort of translation.

And so, yeah, you would think, a layman would conceptually think, well, if the subcutaneous is not as accurate as the blood, then going further out, the dermal.

Yeah, that's a very valid question to address.

It was during that first in human study, you also had to figure out whether or not the microchip that you're using was able to work or not.

Was this one of those things where you had to develop the chip component to understand it, or is it something where you had to figure out what you were looking for in the dermal, in the skin, and then create the chip around that?

And let's talk about some of the other features, because we kind of quickly went over the color-coded LED display on the device itself.

Just want to make sure, first off, anything else with those LED color codes that you want to make sure we cover?

And what other kind of features on the form factor are there that may be differentiated from kind of the currency GM products that are out there?

Okay, so if I got this correct, it actually can detect when you're sleeping?

Okay, so that's got it.