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Matt Mahan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2299 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

policy document that we as a city and counties as well have to submit to the state to basically show that we have zoned to create room for new housing and that we have programs and policies at the local level that will in fact enable that housing to get built.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

And we had some critiques of our plan, and it was a slow back and forth, a slow process for getting it passed.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

And like most other, many other cities in the state, we did not meet one of the deadlines for approval.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

And the state has an accountability mechanism that I would suggest is much more effective.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

It's not fun to be on the receiving end of it, but it's much more effective than lawsuits, which is what's called builder's remedy.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

And I think that a lawsuit should be the last resort here.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

I feel very strongly that our next governor cannot bring a lawyer's mindset to this problem.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

It is a market failure.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

It is a process failure.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

It's the cost stack.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

It's the efficiency.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

It's innovation like modular work.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

But in this case, when cities fail to meet permitting deadlines, when they try to use fees and local building codes to block housing, when they don't deliver on actually enabling housing to get built, I think the state should override and create buy-write mechanisms for developers to move ahead projects, whether or not the city likes it.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

I think that's an accountability mechanism that's more effective, frankly, because

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

What we see with these lawsuits is they drag on for years, they get appealed, and eventually maybe the court tells the locality, go back and update your policies, update your general plan, update your housing element or whatever it is.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

And we're not actually seeing housing get built.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

Huntington Beach is not building more housing, to your point.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

San Diego, I think, was sued, I think, when Mr. Becerra was the AG, and one of the projects with 2,000 units still

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

hasn't gotten built.

The Ezra Klein Show
I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California

So I think the legal path is not particularly effective if we actually want to build housing.