Matt Mahan

It's actually the opposite.

It's the opposite.

We house the workforce.

San Jose was built as the bedroom community.

Yeah, so historically what happened was the defense industry invested early, and out of that came the semiconductor industry.

And the jobs were actually closer to Stanford or Palo Alto, which is almost the midpoint between San Jose and San Francisco.

San Jose was all agriculture up until the post-World War II boom.

But in the 60s and 70s, all of that valley, what used to be called the Valley of Hearts Delayed, all of those orchards got turned into single-family home neighborhoods.

And so San Jose is one million people in the heart of Silicon Valley.

But it is the it is the residential center of the valley.

It's where tech's workforce lives.

It's where their kids go to school.

They go to the park, the library.

But what we've been doing in recent years that I'm really excited about is we're

building an urban center in our downtown and it's starting to grow.

We're getting housing built.

Silicon Valley has always lacked a proper downtown or urban center.

And that's now becoming, that's San Jose's downtown.

But you're right.

It's a more sprawling, it's not like New York or Chicago or one of our more historic- What would you attribute this to though?