Matt Mahan

The incentives are all wrong.

The highly organized interests in Sacramento are being taken care of.

Sacramento is working great for highly organized interests.

It is not working great for regular people.

And I think the best antidote to that is to get back to basics, be competent, be data-driven, deliver results for people, because I'm worried that if we don't, we're gonna see this epic populist battle on the right and the left where people are offering really easy answers, not the honest answers that we need.

I think Governor Newsom has been a bulwark against some of the worst ideas coming out of the legislature.

You mentioned that he's vetoed 10% to 15% of the bills coming out of the legislature.

Many of those vetoes I agree with and I think have averted

My critique has been around not doing enough to take on the entrenched interests in Sacramento.

And we've disagreed very publicly on certain policy issues, Prop 36, recovery housing,

some energy policy points, but it's always, I mean, I try to attack problems, not people.

I'm not really interested in evaluating somebody's intentions or their ideology so much as the results of their actions.

And I think he's done some really good things.

I also think he could do even more.

And that's been my appeal to him is let's work together to drive even more change

faster.

But some of the things he's brought forward, like care court, right idea, now we need to execute it.

We need to actually make sure that care court's actually getting people with addiction and mental illness into care.

I think he's got the right idea, right intention, but we've got to follow through.

And as governor, I would make sure that Prop 36, Prop 1, care court, a number of things he's put in place are actually used to deliver the intended outcome.