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Matt Mahan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

Where are we in California?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

We are by last count at 49% on grade level for reading.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

We are struggling.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

And look, this is part of my assessment of what's gone wrong in Sacramento is we have highly organized interests who are doing their job.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

They're advocating for their members.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

In this case, you have a very effective teacher's union that has a principle of

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

Essentially, non-interference does not want the state to mandate that teachers teach a certain way, do a certain thing, be accountable for certain outcomes.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

Well, recently and belatedly, we did have the legislature deliver to the governor's desk a science of reading bill that mandates evidence-based curricula for literacy, namely phonics, in the early years.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

It should not have taken that long.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

It should not have been as big of a fight.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

The governor, to his credit, signed it.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

It's still not actually mandated.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

It basically is saying that the law essentially says that science of reading, evidence-based literacy curricula is the standard, and you have to meet a certain bar to basically not follow the standard.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

But it's actually still not an actual mandate that you use particular standards.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

And maybe a certain amount of flexibility is warranted, but we were in a place that I strongly opposed, which is we were sort of just leaving it to let teachers decide what to teach when it comes to teaching our children how to read, as other states had quite clearly demonstrated what works and we should follow what works.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

So, you know, when I say effective, I guess what I mean is in the narrow sense, Sacramento is full of highly organized interests from teachers to dentists to oil and gas industry to, you know, pick any industry union, you know, advocacy group.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

But they have such outsized influence.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

They're so organized, are so well staffed.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

have such a strong and consistent presence, both through the legislative cycle, through the writing of laws and bills and the advocacy side, as well as the electoral side, endorsing candidates, spending money on their behalf, that they have this outsized influence.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#464 โ€” The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

And in a narrow sense, they're actually doing exactly what they should be doing.