Matt Mahan

We don't sell data to third parties.

We don't even share it with the federal government because we don't trust how they will use it.

We delete it every 30 days.

On the other hand,

It's helped us solve murders and kidnappings and rapes and all kinds of horrible crimes.

So striking that balance of how do we harness the value of tools?

And I think we want to continue to be a state that is innovative and that is at the cutting edge.

But we have to regulate and protect people from these changes.

Data centers, you mentioned.

I believe, and this should be a national standard, but certainly for California, any new data center needs to pay the full cost of the infrastructure they require, the full cost of energy.

They should be required to use the cleanest energy.

Their investment should help facilitate the clean energy future that we all want.

They should have to use recycled water.

So I think that we can raise the bar.

And that's kind of my point.

You have this sort of much more laissez-faire approach on the right that is sort of like, oh, business is good.

Capitalism is always good.

And let's just have this sort of unbridled capitalism and see what happens.

Yeah, exactly.

So I reject that mindset and approach.