Matt McCusker

And then I learned you studied as a creative writer.

Yeah, that's true.

Well, that's why I really like the books.

And I was talking to you before we came in here.

I was like, how did I, I don't know how I heard about the book.

I was like, maybe it was from someone I follow.

It might've just been like a random search.

I genuinely don't remember.

I do think it's from the Josh reads books thing.

but i forget um that was conquistador but that was the thing i was reading it and i'm like man this this history book is like it's just focused on the narrative itself rather than just like it's just i get drowned in facts reading history where i'm like dude just tell me the story tell me the story and then and then what you do is what's nice is you give the occasional historical zinger where it's like actually this thing was that and it's like okay it's kind of cool to know

Yeah, I got to say it was I got to I got to tip the hat.

First and foremost, it was the books are great.

You guys crush it.

There is something very funny about, you know, we're talking obviously about the Aztec conquistador thing, but there is something just that I thought was funny about never meeting a certain type of people before, because the way they like brought them into their temples, like, yo, this is cool.

Check this out.

And it would just be like a dead dog with his skull crushed in and like a dead kid they're eating.

And you'd be like, what the fuck?

What is this?

They're like, well, you don't think this is cool?

Like, we think this is cool.