Matt McCusker

I cannot just, I can't be around them.

But then the problem is a lot of those guys will go, I'll take some Xanax.

And they go, oh, that's kind of sick.

Let's take some Adderall.

And they just end up, they do end up right back on the opes.

But the people I know who are like, you know, say like, I'm staying off of opiates and then they kind of like take mushrooms here and there, they still get that charge and kick, but it's like, you're not going to do a bunch of mushrooms and be like, yo, I should go steal my brother's PlayStation.

It's like, so I feel like that's, to me at least, I think that helps a lot of people.

So there was like a real almost physiological kind of.

Isn't that the worst time to take it, though?

So... Yeah, I... Well, I'm, like, kind of split on this, because it's, like, I...

I do think it's a crazy way to treat it where it's like, don't touch it at all.

And it's like, yeah, okay.

Like Louis CK has a great joke about it.

How like, you got to tell your kids not to do drugs, but drugs are literally the answers to all their problems.

Yeah.

And it's like, yo, you'll feel awesome.

Actually, if you're actually being honest, like, no, you'll feel great.

You'll be confident.

But the, this is what I found.

I used to drink when I was younger.