Matt Murphy

I think that

You know, this went on for almost a year where these emails are coming into the family.

And a lot of people think, you know, how could somebody believe that?

But, you know, when you have somebody that you love dearly and you're getting these emails that at least demonstrates that they're still alive, the alternative is almost too brutal to think about.

So you...

a mother's wish for her son to still be alive is going to, it's going to get her past a lot of red flags, I think, if that makes sense.

So the dad, however, um, he starts sending, um, he starts asking questions and they're almost quizzes.

And it was, um, what, what Lake did you grow up water skiing on was one of the, was one of the questions.

And what was the name of our boat?

And the response was dad, it was Kelly Lake, um,

Chill out.

I'm fine.

That was essentially the response.

But he doesn't answer what kind of boat it was, which was which was actually one of being very significant.

So the dad decides he's going to come down to to Orange County and he comes down and he meets with Ed Shin.

And Ed was one of the last people to see him, to see Chris.

So he, you know, Ed sits down with the dad and Ed is, he's calm and he's smooth.

And he explains, look, we have this ongoing business dispute.

It's not a problem.

He decided that he wanted to take this trip around the world that everybody in Chris's life had heard about.