Matt Murphy

And he realizes that that's something that he doesn't want to mess around.

So he backs out.

and calls the sheriff's department.

Now, meanwhile, what has happened is I've got my jurisdiction covered Laguna Beach.

The family had filed a missing persons report with Laguna, and they brought Ed in.

And this thing's on video, Megan, and I'm telling you, I was a DA for 26 years.

You see this interview.

It is fascinating because Ed Shin is so convincing.

And these two detectives sit down and they're like, hey, family,

is trying to find their their son.

What's the deal?

And he he's almost perfect.

He is calm.

He is like he doesn't break a sweat.

He describes how that, you know, Chris was always talking about this round the world trip and sitting on a beach someplace.

And about halfway through the interview, I'll leave the names of the detectives out.

You can just see they relax and they buy it.

They believe them and it becomes sort of a, that was kind of the end, right?

I taught a class at the Sheriff's Academy for young detectives.

And right about the same time, I finish finish a class and walking out to the parking lot.