Matt Murphy

He's channeling that in his head as he's testifying.

And I'm taking notes of this and going, this is insane.

So I've done five no body murders.

OK, I did the Hawks case at a Newport.

The couple that got tied to the anchor and thrown overboard.

That was terrible.

A lot that nobody's ever heard of.

And, you know, when you first start out as a prosecutor, you think that you don't know how a jury is going to react to that.

And.

And when you do a few of them, you realize that there there can be certain advantages if you don't find the body.

And one of them is if you have to prove the death.

Normally, you just have the death of a human being is the element.

So if you have a dead body, that element is satisfied.

But if you have the the the ethical and burden of proof evidence,

obligation to prove that somebody is dead, the way you do that is you put their mom on the stand or their best friend or somebody that tells you how much they love their dog or the grandma who said he'd never miss Christmas.

What you're able to do as a prosecutor is the jury will be able to get a sense of who the person was as a human being.

I had a mentor in homicide.

His name is Lou Rosenblum.

He basically brought me into the unit.

He's one of the