Matt Murphy

So, you know, the fishing trip really wasn't much of a fishing trip.

It was more of a trip so that, yeah, you mentioned earlier that Lacey had never set foot in that boat.

Well, she had never set foot in that boat alive.

She certainly was in the boat after he had killed her.

Well, actually, there were three of us.

There were Craig Grogan and then Al Brocchini and I. Now, Al started the case on Christmas Eve when he was notified about the missing.

And he knew that I always liked overtime, but he also knew I had my kids with me on Christmas Eve.

So he called me on Christmas Day as I was taking them over to their mom's house.

And of course, I was all too happy to jump on some Christmas Day overtime because I didn't have anything going that day anyway.

But yeah, Al Brocchini, when he first started talking to him, he

You start gathering a lot of evidence from the beginning.

Yeah, it's, you know, I mean, for me, that was one of the first things that Brochini did when I met with him on Christmas Day is I met him at the office and he played that tape for me.

And of course, the first thing I said, how long have these guys been married?

And he said, five years.

And I thought, I don't know, that seems kind of flowery for Brochini.

You know, somebody married for five years.

It just seems sort of, you know, I mean, just like you said, you know, to me, it was a staged call to take the focus off of him.

And it didn't mean he did it.

But I mean, you know this stuff and your viewers know this stuff.

How do we start a murder investigation?