Matt Murphy

He talked to several people from the media and he just said, hey, I don't want to be a part of this.

This is all about Lacey.

This is to find Lacey.

I don't want to be the distraction.

And of course, you can interpret that both ways.

Maybe he's sincere about that or you can look at it that he didn't want his face out there because he didn't want Amber to see it or anybody else.

So, you know, if you think about how he appeared on the... John, have there been

Yeah, there'd been at least two that we knew of that were called in.

Girls had called us and told us about things.

And, you know, I hate to say that, but I mean, they are what they are.

They're in the record.

And, you know, it is what it is.

Yeah, he stretched the truth on a lot of things, a lot of things that he didn't have to stretch the truth on.

So it was really difficult, you know, dealing with him to know where the, you know, the truth ended and the lies started.

Because he would lie sometimes for no reason on things that were inconsequential.

And that was kind of difficult for us to kind of pick through.

But, you know, it was – he just –

He was just he was just interesting to work, you know.

Yeah.

Well, and that kind of falls into why we don't really have any doubts that he did this.