Matt Parker

Yes, yes.

Yeah, and even if they could make a call, and a lot of these women have phones, they're under an amount of duress.

They've threatened to go get my sister if I actually call for help.

And oftentimes...

In other parts of the world, law enforcement can be complicit and are protecting these environments for a bribe.

And so that's a whole other level of complexity.

And when you think about, hey, someone's child, and if it were my child and they're trapped in this environment...

And somebody has to go and find them, and they have to advocate for their freedom and police action by navigating the corrupt environment that allows this whole thing to exist.

It's very complicated.

Yeah, and they do try.

And again, I feel like I'm continuing to champion the concept of digital forensics, but

You know, in 2015, we participated in one of the largest human trafficking takedowns in Thailand's modern history.

And it was a rumored case, like the Rohingya people from Myanmar were being persecuted.

There's been genocide taking place there for 60 years.

And what they were doing, these people groups were trying to escape

And they were paying human smugglers to load them onto ships and take them to Malaysia where they would be safe.

And they have family there.

But these human smugglers turned human traffickers and made landfall on the Andaman coast of Thailand.

And they were loading the Rohingya people who were paying to get to Malaysia, loading them onto trucks.

and driving them into jungle holding camps.