Matt Pearce

But I'm somebody who comes at this from the labor perspective and says, If you lay off 20 newspaper reporters, you're not going to see that labor replaced somewhere in the ecosystem. You're not going to see as many phone calls to the mayor or people digging through court records to bring original stuff to the public. So there's this

funding problem where that work not only is not getting paid for under the current economic structure that we have it's not getting replaced when it disappears like in a sort of market competition sense and but still benefits lots of people even when nobody's really reading it which is also true because i think even in the news industry we haven't come to grips to

funding problem where that work not only is not getting paid for under the current economic structure that we have it's not getting replaced when it disappears like in a sort of market competition sense and but still benefits lots of people even when nobody's really reading it which is also true because i think even in the news industry we haven't come to grips to

funding problem where that work not only is not getting paid for under the current economic structure that we have it's not getting replaced when it disappears like in a sort of market competition sense and but still benefits lots of people even when nobody's really reading it which is also true because i think even in the news industry we haven't come to grips to

The extent our stuff is not being directly encountered by people, but it's just being distributed through all these very, very diluted channels of TikTok and Instagram and people screenshotting or group texting. A lot of the way that people encounter our work, they don't even realize that they're encountering our work. I support those sort of mechanisms to try to fix that kind of mix match.

The extent our stuff is not being directly encountered by people, but it's just being distributed through all these very, very diluted channels of TikTok and Instagram and people screenshotting or group texting. A lot of the way that people encounter our work, they don't even realize that they're encountering our work. I support those sort of mechanisms to try to fix that kind of mix match.

The extent our stuff is not being directly encountered by people, but it's just being distributed through all these very, very diluted channels of TikTok and Instagram and people screenshotting or group texting. A lot of the way that people encounter our work, they don't even realize that they're encountering our work. I support those sort of mechanisms to try to fix that kind of mix match.

And also, there's just not an alternative. I mean, we don't have five or 10 search engines that are viable, that are competing with each other, and some of which who want to get a leg up, want to strike deals with news companies to prominently feature news content. We're just stuck with this one giant search engine.

And also, there's just not an alternative. I mean, we don't have five or 10 search engines that are viable, that are competing with each other, and some of which who want to get a leg up, want to strike deals with news companies to prominently feature news content. We're just stuck with this one giant search engine.

And also, there's just not an alternative. I mean, we don't have five or 10 search engines that are viable, that are competing with each other, and some of which who want to get a leg up, want to strike deals with news companies to prominently feature news content. We're just stuck with this one giant search engine.

You're totally right about what's going on with this. And I think it's a real conflict between our sort of non-commercial journalistic mission and with the actual business reality of paying people and making sure that the direct deposit lands every two weeks. Because I too am also like a media pluralist. I spend a lot of my time on social media and on the internet.

You're totally right about what's going on with this. And I think it's a real conflict between our sort of non-commercial journalistic mission and with the actual business reality of paying people and making sure that the direct deposit lands every two weeks. Because I too am also like a media pluralist. I spend a lot of my time on social media and on the internet.

You're totally right about what's going on with this. And I think it's a real conflict between our sort of non-commercial journalistic mission and with the actual business reality of paying people and making sure that the direct deposit lands every two weeks. Because I too am also like a media pluralist. I spend a lot of my time on social media and on the internet.

And I am also like, I just want my stuff to be out there. And If I'm an investigative journalist and I write a story about a corrupt defense contractor, I want people to know about that. And I would love to get credit, of course, or whatever. But actually, if I'm doing a civic mission, I just want people to know the information, you know, like facts are not copyrightable. That's a fact.

And I am also like, I just want my stuff to be out there. And If I'm an investigative journalist and I write a story about a corrupt defense contractor, I want people to know about that. And I would love to get credit, of course, or whatever. But actually, if I'm doing a civic mission, I just want people to know the information, you know, like facts are not copyrightable. That's a fact.

And I am also like, I just want my stuff to be out there. And If I'm an investigative journalist and I write a story about a corrupt defense contractor, I want people to know about that. And I would love to get credit, of course, or whatever. But actually, if I'm doing a civic mission, I just want people to know the information, you know, like facts are not copyrightable. That's a fact.

get it out there. People will talk about it. They'll do their own stuff with it. This is the fiber of democracy. The problem is, and the real breakdown is that I, as a journalist and as a consumer, am totally fine with that. But I, as a worker who needs to continue to get paid to produce that stuff, have a real material concern about the fact that this is not really a two-way relationship anymore.

get it out there. People will talk about it. They'll do their own stuff with it. This is the fiber of democracy. The problem is, and the real breakdown is that I, as a journalist and as a consumer, am totally fine with that. But I, as a worker who needs to continue to get paid to produce that stuff, have a real material concern about the fact that this is not really a two-way relationship anymore.

get it out there. People will talk about it. They'll do their own stuff with it. This is the fiber of democracy. The problem is, and the real breakdown is that I, as a journalist and as a consumer, am totally fine with that. But I, as a worker who needs to continue to get paid to produce that stuff, have a real material concern about the fact that this is not really a two-way relationship anymore.

Maybe it was an earlier part of the internet. I just think back to this period 20 years ago, like 2005, where we did have the World Wide Web, Google was bumping around, but we also had a ton of news organizations that were very luxuriously staffed and a lot of them increasingly publishing stuff on the Internet.