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Matt Pearce

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

So that's why your concert hall locally might be struggling, your local symphony orchestra, they're trying to perform an act of labor that hasn't effectively changed or gotten cheaper over the last 150 years. They have to rely a lot on philanthropy. They're not really for-profit enterprises, etc., etc.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

So that's why your concert hall locally might be struggling, your local symphony orchestra, they're trying to perform an act of labor that hasn't effectively changed or gotten cheaper over the last 150 years. They have to rely a lot on philanthropy. They're not really for-profit enterprises, etc., etc.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

So that's why your concert hall locally might be struggling, your local symphony orchestra, they're trying to perform an act of labor that hasn't effectively changed or gotten cheaper over the last 150 years. They have to rely a lot on philanthropy. They're not really for-profit enterprises, etc., etc.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

I argue that journalism, and specifically the parts of journalism that are like investigative reporting or original reporting, which I think is the real value that journalists bring to the ecosystem. It's a thing that we do well that other people don't do well or don't do at all. That stuff also hasn't really gotten all that much more efficient.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

I argue that journalism, and specifically the parts of journalism that are like investigative reporting or original reporting, which I think is the real value that journalists bring to the ecosystem. It's a thing that we do well that other people don't do well or don't do at all. That stuff also hasn't really gotten all that much more efficient.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

I argue that journalism, and specifically the parts of journalism that are like investigative reporting or original reporting, which I think is the real value that journalists bring to the ecosystem. It's a thing that we do well that other people don't do well or don't do at all. That stuff also hasn't really gotten all that much more efficient.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

So if you think back to the days of Woodward and Bernstein and what they were doing to crack open a really big story about Richard Nixon... like a true investigation that's stretching out over many months.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

So if you think back to the days of Woodward and Bernstein and what they were doing to crack open a really big story about Richard Nixon... like a true investigation that's stretching out over many months.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

So if you think back to the days of Woodward and Bernstein and what they were doing to crack open a really big story about Richard Nixon... like a true investigation that's stretching out over many months.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

They're going, they're knocking on people's doors, because one of the things that I don't know if people appreciate who are not journalists is that when you are interviewing somebody as a journalist, they behave differently based on whether you are texting them, emailing them, or talking to them on the phone, or talking to them in person.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

They're going, they're knocking on people's doors, because one of the things that I don't know if people appreciate who are not journalists is that when you are interviewing somebody as a journalist, they behave differently based on whether you are texting them, emailing them, or talking to them on the phone, or talking to them in person.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

They're going, they're knocking on people's doors, because one of the things that I don't know if people appreciate who are not journalists is that when you are interviewing somebody as a journalist, they behave differently based on whether you are texting them, emailing them, or talking to them on the phone, or talking to them in person.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

And when you are talking to people in person, that's when you get the best interviews. The next best interview is when you're talking to them on the phone. The worst stuff is like texting and sliding through DMs, and you can't do that kind of reporting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

And when you are talking to people in person, that's when you get the best interviews. The next best interview is when you're talking to them on the phone. The worst stuff is like texting and sliding through DMs, and you can't do that kind of reporting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

And when you are talking to people in person, that's when you get the best interviews. The next best interview is when you're talking to them on the phone. The worst stuff is like texting and sliding through DMs, and you can't do that kind of reporting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

And in fact, it's influenced a lot of the journalism that you see on the Internet because we now have fewer classical what you would call shoe leather journalists who are actually physically traveling and going to places again because it's expensive and not efficient. So I say that journalism has a cost disease problem, and that stuff is the most replaceable stuff that we do.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

And in fact, it's influenced a lot of the journalism that you see on the Internet because we now have fewer classical what you would call shoe leather journalists who are actually physically traveling and going to places again because it's expensive and not efficient. So I say that journalism has a cost disease problem, and that stuff is the most replaceable stuff that we do.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

And in fact, it's influenced a lot of the journalism that you see on the Internet because we now have fewer classical what you would call shoe leather journalists who are actually physically traveling and going to places again because it's expensive and not efficient. So I say that journalism has a cost disease problem, and that stuff is the most replaceable stuff that we do.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

It's the place where we'll get our asses kicked. It's also the place where we're least likely to produce something that the TikTokers are going to point to and green screen and plagiarize and send all over the internet. I don't want to overstate the case and say that there's been no technological improvements that can make journalism better.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it

It's the place where we'll get our asses kicked. It's also the place where we're least likely to produce something that the TikTokers are going to point to and green screen and plagiarize and send all over the internet. I don't want to overstate the case and say that there's been no technological improvements that can make journalism better.