Matt Rogers
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Sorry.
You still get nervous.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
Like we got to manage this thing that's like a little bit outlying and we got to pull it back down.
Or something.
Totally.
I mean, I feel like the awareness of it, though, is the helpful thing.
And that's like even like you writing a song called Dopamine.
The reason I asked if it was still called that 10 years ago is because I feel like the word has a new sort of like.
It's not the right word.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's really cool.
No, I do think so because... Yeah, you're right.
It...
When I listen to that song, I go, yes, it is like demystifying this thing.
And it demystifies even the addiction of like being on our phones.
Whereas like, I think there is this like bigger movement now of just everybody kind of being like, oh, let's, that's, let's put that in another room.
Let's put the phone in like the closet.