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No, no, it's about you. It does relate to you, though, and I think that... And I do want to speak on Meredith for a second, because this has been like a... And I will say, Meredith is a friend of the show. We love Meredith. We are Angie fans, but we are also Meredith fans. And so I guess what we would like to see is ultimately... Well, it's kind of complicated, right?

Because we love watching you guys face off. It is always fun to watch you guys be adversarial with each other. But that being said, we do really love you both and want the best for you both. So I guess my question to you is, do you see the value in having a foe like that? And in that way, do you feel like she's your most, in a way, valuable relationship on the show?

You're a great housewife. You're an incredible housewife. Thank you. You're the third housewife I've ever had on Lost Culturistas. You, Garcelle, and Dr. Wendy.

Yes.

Absolutely. Title of F is winning.

And don't count them out.

It's getting up there. It's getting up there. Definitely.

Right.

No, and it had been in the past. I actually think if Salt Lake City had a weaker season, I would say it was the third season because it felt really bogged down in the Jen Shah darkness of it all. And I do want to ask about that situation.

Looking back on all of that, and I also, after this, I'll follow up with another question about how you see yourself in an edit because I always think that's fascinating. Yes. First, I wanted to ask, looking back on the Jen Shah of it all and what you all went through, what are the feelings about that in retrospect and also going forward and when it comes to Jen Shah?

She's a 360 person. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, especially because, you know, with her out of the way. Yes. And also, not for nothing, but what's really interesting is how it seemed like when that broke in season two, that she was being arrested on camera and that it was going to be seen and that there was going to be the fallout from that. It kind of felt like, how could they top this?

And then for the aftermath and someone tangentially involved or actually pretty directly involved with everything going on with her, Monica, to become like... The even more compelling, even more interesting thing the next season, I think just goes to show like it doesn't rely on any one person, not any single one of these shows do.