Matt Samboli

And all the execs didn't care or they were listless.

They had no idea what was going on.

And it was around that time that I started making my own pivot into social media and building different companies, advertising related companies on there.

So is that something you saw too with the blogosphere?

You just noticed, hey, forget radio.

This is where it's at.

There's no eyeballs on the radio.

What's so interesting about Hala's story is that, and a lot of our white collar professional listeners can relate to this.

There was the app media thing, the blogosphere.

My understanding, Hala, is that you ended up pursuing an MBA after the whole ordeal with Hot 97.

And you got an MBA and you worked for Hewlett Packard.

You did the whole corporate thing for a while.

There's two patterns that you can recognize, and maybe for some of our listeners to be paying attention to.

The first is, in your case, clearly you were not a quiet quitter.

You were actually quite the opposite at the Hewlett Packard experience.

And we talk a lot about in this show about how there's disillusionment in the workplace, and sometimes that results in a form of quiet quitting.

The type that actually go on to create amazing companies and independent opportunities are the ones that are overachieving.

And so if you find yourself in that realm where you're disillusioned, you're quiet quitting, that doesn't promise well in terms of how you're going to perform outside if you go independent.

I think that's an important point from your story.

I think the second one as well is how dramatically different an experience can be across different companies and cultures.