Matt Spiegel

It's a good one to have around the house.

I subscribe to the hard copy so I can read stuff like this and take my time with it, and it was a joy to do so.

That tension is fascinating.

He talked a lot to you about the emotional troubles.

that plague him with so much awareness.

He says about the emotions and the anger, the emotions and the anger tired me out.

You could see it in the second half.

I know that sets me up for failure, but it's the truth.

I mean, that's fascinating to be a young kid and know that and still not be able to stop it.

That's relatable.

Yeah, I was close enough to see it play out the way that you're talking about.

And I said something like exactly what Pete said to you.

Like, man, there's kids watching this and they're going to go do it.

And we brought it up to Craig Council and Council was beautiful about it.

A beautiful response saying the same stuff that makes Pete great is the stuff that can get in his way.

So how do you work on that if you're a young ballplayer, Wayne?

Wayne, we know you love baseball, and it's that failure piece, man, and I'm thinking about so many different things.

I always think of, Ted Williams asked about it after he hit 400, how do you feel, he said, how would you feel if your boss gave you 10 jobs to do and you did six of them wrong?

You know, it's like these guys torture themselves.

Does anybody torture themselves more than baseball players among athletes?