Matt Spiegel

And so for him to discuss it...

and to remark on it as succinctly as he just did, you forget.

It's not that you forget.

You block out sometimes Caleb Williams' rookie season and everything that went wrong.

And when you hear a rookie who obviously did not partake in that season, doesn't know anything about what happened the year before he arrived as a Chicago Bear, as a guy with high expectations is not only a first round pick, but the first tight end taken off the board.

Yes.

It's just so reminding you that things are so much better than they used to be.

But you know why, right?

Because the process was indefensible before.

So nobody wanted to talk about it.

So when do you feel like you got a sense of the physicality you could bring to these sorts of moments?

Do you think that early on, even at the beginning of the season, you're like, oh, I can do this here?

Or do you think it took a little bit of time to kind of sense like, I can play this way the same way I could in college?

This is one of the biggest plays of the season.

The fact that you are where they're going with the ball.

That happened a lot this year.

Do you feel like that kind of developed over the course of the year when it seemed like Ben and Caleb and everybody else was kind of putting that level of faith in you in some of these high leverage moments?

With him, he understands so much, and I think this is why he was so high on so many people's draft boards, not just because of what he could do on the field, but the mind.

And he walks you through the processes, as you just described, and every time he's talking about whether it's a specific play or just the mindset or his general approach, you're like, yeah, I'm glad that guy is on the team that...

I'm following, that I root for, that I cheer for, because it gives you a certain level of confidence, right?