Matt Taibbi

that point of view which is really scary right i mean there was real research out there and most people didn't see it i didn't see it until a year and a half later no i know right no so uh and that's that's what could happen that's what could have happened with all this stuff so but i know that you without getting too specific but you're you know you're in touch with doctors like on a personal level like you know doctors

that point of view which is really scary right i mean there was real research out there and most people didn't see it i didn't see it until a year and a half later no i know right no so uh and that's that's what could happen that's what could have happened with all this stuff so but i know that you without getting too specific but you're you know you're in touch with doctors like on a personal level like you know doctors

Well, I mean, I know some ER doctors as well, and they had to go looking for information. And it was very hard to find. And, you know, to this day, if you go on Google and you go looking for things, you're not likely to find anything.

Well, I mean, I know some ER doctors as well, and they had to go looking for information. And it was very hard to find. And, you know, to this day, if you go on Google and you go looking for things, you're not likely to find anything.

Well, I mean, I know some ER doctors as well, and they had to go looking for information. And it was very hard to find. And, you know, to this day, if you go on Google and you go looking for things, you're not likely to find anything.

the the sort of counter-narrative thing easily uh and i think for a lot of doctors during that period it was frustrating because um even peer-reviewed research was not always easy to find uh for them so yeah uh during that period it affected the whole question of like

the the sort of counter-narrative thing easily uh and i think for a lot of doctors during that period it was frustrating because um even peer-reviewed research was not always easy to find uh for them so yeah uh during that period it affected the whole question of like

the the sort of counter-narrative thing easily uh and i think for a lot of doctors during that period it was frustrating because um even peer-reviewed research was not always easy to find uh for them so yeah uh during that period it affected the whole question of like

experts who talked to the press like they weren't always informed about what was going on or or about different studies that have been done and yeah we had a completely different idea about the about the pandemic than maybe we should have but the point being is not so much that that was destructive in itself though i think it was

experts who talked to the press like they weren't always informed about what was going on or or about different studies that have been done and yeah we had a completely different idea about the about the pandemic than maybe we should have but the point being is not so much that that was destructive in itself though i think it was

experts who talked to the press like they weren't always informed about what was going on or or about different studies that have been done and yeah we had a completely different idea about the about the pandemic than maybe we should have but the point being is not so much that that was destructive in itself though i think it was

but that it was a proof of concept of something that was to come, you know?

but that it was a proof of concept of something that was to come, you know?

but that it was a proof of concept of something that was to come, you know?

I don't know. I mean, that's, that's what we have to, that's why these documents will be so fascinating to get. Do you think that we'll ever get to that?

I don't know. I mean, that's, that's what we have to, that's why these documents will be so fascinating to get. Do you think that we'll ever get to that?

I don't know. I mean, that's, that's what we have to, that's why these documents will be so fascinating to get. Do you think that we'll ever get to that?

We may not know some of the higher level thinking about things. I mean, you're probably not going to get a document that says, look, it's really important that we do this because if we really stress masking, then we'll have established the precedent of that visible symbols of conformity are a positive goal for an authoritarian regime.

We may not know some of the higher level thinking about things. I mean, you're probably not going to get a document that says, look, it's really important that we do this because if we really stress masking, then we'll have established the precedent of that visible symbols of conformity are a positive goal for an authoritarian regime.

We may not know some of the higher level thinking about things. I mean, you're probably not going to get a document that says, look, it's really important that we do this because if we really stress masking, then we'll have established the precedent of that visible symbols of conformity are a positive goal for an authoritarian regime.