Matt Taibbi
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What they designed, what you would do if you were designing a disease to carry a vaccine, for instance.
What are they doing? What was their relation to the Wuhan Institute also? I mean, I think those are all important questions, both the bioweapons and the relation to the pandemic. But the thing is about these pardons, they're a mistake. If you want to know what's happening, they just made it a lot easier for us to find out. Wow.
What are they doing? What was their relation to the Wuhan Institute also? I mean, I think those are all important questions, both the bioweapons and the relation to the pandemic. But the thing is about these pardons, they're a mistake. If you want to know what's happening, they just made it a lot easier for us to find out. Wow.
What are they doing? What was their relation to the Wuhan Institute also? I mean, I think those are all important questions, both the bioweapons and the relation to the pandemic. But the thing is about these pardons, they're a mistake. If you want to know what's happening, they just made it a lot easier for us to find out. Wow.
Because now, once the pardon's delivered, the person can't plead the fifth. If they're brought before a grand jury, they can't take the fifth anymore. If they're brought before a congressional committee, they can't evoke their right against self-incrimination. So they have to say something.
Because now, once the pardon's delivered, the person can't plead the fifth. If they're brought before a grand jury, they can't take the fifth anymore. If they're brought before a congressional committee, they can't evoke their right against self-incrimination. So they have to say something.
Because now, once the pardon's delivered, the person can't plead the fifth. If they're brought before a grand jury, they can't take the fifth anymore. If they're brought before a congressional committee, they can't evoke their right against self-incrimination. So they have to say something.
And this is what's so interesting, because I've been talking to criminal defense attorneys, people who are former Senate investigators, some current Senate investigators, and And they all kind of said the same thing. It's so illogical to give somebody a pardon if you're trying to cover up things that the only reason you would really do it is if there's very serious crimes involved, right?
And this is what's so interesting, because I've been talking to criminal defense attorneys, people who are former Senate investigators, some current Senate investigators, and And they all kind of said the same thing. It's so illogical to give somebody a pardon if you're trying to cover up things that the only reason you would really do it is if there's very serious crimes involved, right?
And this is what's so interesting, because I've been talking to criminal defense attorneys, people who are former Senate investigators, some current Senate investigators, and And they all kind of said the same thing. It's so illogical to give somebody a pardon if you're trying to cover up things that the only reason you would really do it is if there's very serious crimes involved, right?
So that's a red flag for us. When we see somebody getting a pardon, we think... Well, why would they do that unless there's something really bad there, right? So either it's a mistake where they just stupidly made it easier for everybody to investigate or there's something we don't know about that is interesting.
So that's a red flag for us. When we see somebody getting a pardon, we think... Well, why would they do that unless there's something really bad there, right? So either it's a mistake where they just stupidly made it easier for everybody to investigate or there's something we don't know about that is interesting.
So that's a red flag for us. When we see somebody getting a pardon, we think... Well, why would they do that unless there's something really bad there, right? So either it's a mistake where they just stupidly made it easier for everybody to investigate or there's something we don't know about that is interesting.
It's not only morally incriminating, it's legally incriminating, as the Department of Justice itself said in a memo, I think, on one of the J6 cases, it said, this does not unring the bell of conviction if you get a pardon going forward. So you're making an admission if you accept a pardon. So, yeah, I wouldn't accept one if I were totally innocent. Of course.
It's not only morally incriminating, it's legally incriminating, as the Department of Justice itself said in a memo, I think, on one of the J6 cases, it said, this does not unring the bell of conviction if you get a pardon going forward. So you're making an admission if you accept a pardon. So, yeah, I wouldn't accept one if I were totally innocent. Of course.
It's not only morally incriminating, it's legally incriminating, as the Department of Justice itself said in a memo, I think, on one of the J6 cases, it said, this does not unring the bell of conviction if you get a pardon going forward. So you're making an admission if you accept a pardon. So, yeah, I wouldn't accept one if I were totally innocent. Of course.
Yeah, and also I wouldn't accept one if I had something to hide because now, you know, if I'm dragged before a congressional committee or especially a grand jury investigation, now I can't tap out and say, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm going to take the fifth on that. That's fascinating. Right? So the whole thing is really illogical. I think it was more meant to be a symbolic gesture.
Yeah, and also I wouldn't accept one if I had something to hide because now, you know, if I'm dragged before a congressional committee or especially a grand jury investigation, now I can't tap out and say, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm going to take the fifth on that. That's fascinating. Right? So the whole thing is really illogical. I think it was more meant to be a symbolic gesture.
Yeah, and also I wouldn't accept one if I had something to hide because now, you know, if I'm dragged before a congressional committee or especially a grand jury investigation, now I can't tap out and say, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm going to take the fifth on that. That's fascinating. Right? So the whole thing is really illogical. I think it was more meant to be a symbolic gesture.
And this is really, I think, speaks to the thinking of the Biden administration about so many things, right? They were so driven by optics with Trump that they did a lot of things that were incredibly stupid. So they want to portray him as vengeful and out to get people. And the pardons are a good way to do that.