Matt Williams

As Liam said, Bordeaux have...

dominated the last semi-final, for example, against Bath.

They lost the possession by a significant margin.

I think Bath had 64% possession.

But they still outscored them completely.

And this Bordeaux team scores lots of long-range tries from set plays.

So while that is an argument, Matt, and a valid one, and that's got to be Leinster's strength, it's still not enough for us to say that...

Bordeaux are anything but favourites for this game, which is a very, very strange mindset for Leinster to go into a final with.

I think it's still pretty factual.

Yeah, Matt, what they can do, they've got two significant factors.

They've got an absolutely extraordinary pace out wide,

which is Bill Berry especially, and as Liam again said, Pano, but they have been playing Pano at outside centre.

We can come back to that defensively later on.

But they've got exceptional pace out wide.

And then their halves, Maxime Lecou, who's a scrum half, and Matthew Jellebert, who's their 10th,

have fantastic passing skills.

They're both in great form, but they also possess probably some of the best short-kicking games in world rugby.

So they're getting the ball to their wingers either by passing or off their boot with exceptional accuracy and great vision.

And what Leinster's defence does, it becomes very compact and comes up, puts a lot of pressure on you, but it does leave space out wide, and that's where they're vulnerable.

So when you put that combination of a Leinster defence that is compact and comes up hard with a Bordeaux attack that has exceptional, I mean exceptional, best-in-world pace, with the ability to get the ball to those guys very, very efficiently, that expels trouble for Leinster.