Matt Willis

like a grafter, always busy.

Obviously I grew up in the same house as two brothers, James and Michael.

James was a very gifted racing driver from a young age.

So I would kind of see him like not really be able to be in school.

He was, you know, a professional racing driver when he was very young.

So he didn't do particularly well in school because he was never around to, you know, take his exams and stuff, but he wasn't,

In school, he was busy traveling, racing, and Michael, obviously, we lost quite young.

He was the youngest Brit to climb Everest and died when he was 22.

But I remember that pretty vividly as a 10-year-old.

I remember feeling what an incredible thing it is that somebody as young as Michael would want to climb Everest, be that adventurous at such a young age.

And what did your parents show you about how to deal with that?

I remember when we first found out.

We were in the French West Indies at the time that we got the call.

I was in my room and they were in theirs, the room above me, and they kind of called me and they said to come upstairs, came upstairs, and they...

were kind of holding each other and they were very sad, like visibly quite, like the atmosphere was very awkward in the room.

It was strange because they had always been, I'd never seen my parents upset before.

And they kind of held me as well and said, Michael is lost on the mountain.

Um, and I can remember at the time just being quite naive and just thinking, well, you know, that's, that's fine.

Obviously, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure he'll be found.

And so it didn't hit me until, until quite a lot later, but he, um,