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Thomas told him Schiller's a secondary source. And then there's things that Schiller says where he will summarize something, and that information came from somebody who heard about something from someone, at which point it's a tertiary source. I hate tertiary sources.

Thomas told him Schiller's a secondary source. And then there's things that Schiller says where he will summarize something, and that information came from somebody who heard about something from someone, at which point it's a tertiary source. I hate tertiary sources.

They are case reports on steroids. Yeah. Whereas Schiller's is a documentary.

They are case reports on steroids. Yeah. Whereas Schiller's is a documentary.

Schiller's is basically a historical work. So it's different.

Schiller's is basically a historical work. So it's different.

Douglas is also primary source because he is talking about his experience investigating the case. So what I've been using from Douglas, I've used Douglas only in this video because it's the first time he's actually appeared in the case. For Douglas, what I take is basically his primary source stuff, what he was told, what he experienced.

Douglas is also primary source because he is talking about his experience investigating the case. So what I've been using from Douglas, I've used Douglas only in this video because it's the first time he's actually appeared in the case. For Douglas, what I take is basically his primary source stuff, what he was told, what he experienced.

But the problem Douglas had, and this is going to become more apparent as we go on throughout the case... Douglas never had access to all of the information. He only had access to what the Ramsey team gave him. Oh.

But the problem Douglas had, and this is going to become more apparent as we go on throughout the case... Douglas never had access to all of the information. He only had access to what the Ramsey team gave him. Oh.

And his understanding coming in, and this was never explicitly said to him, but his understanding coming in was that he was hired to determine whether or not John Ramsey did it by John Ramsey's lawyers.

And his understanding coming in, and this was never explicitly said to him, but his understanding coming in was that he was hired to determine whether or not John Ramsey did it by John Ramsey's lawyers.

Oh, Steve Fisher? Yeah. The thing is, I don't even think Steve Fisher was brought in because he wasn't hired by the lawyers. He was hired by the Proudfoots. Yeah. I consider it basically the same. I see what you're saying, yeah. So... Douglas was of the opinion, once he met with the lawyers, that he wasn't there to find out who did it.

Oh, Steve Fisher? Yeah. The thing is, I don't even think Steve Fisher was brought in because he wasn't hired by the lawyers. He was hired by the Proudfoots. Yeah. I consider it basically the same. I see what you're saying, yeah. So... Douglas was of the opinion, once he met with the lawyers, that he wasn't there to find out who did it.

He was there to find out how likely it was that John was responsible. And I think, to some extent, I think he's correct that John's not responsible. I don't think John killed JonBenet, or at least I don't think he delivered the blow that made it so that she wasn't coming back.

He was there to find out how likely it was that John was responsible. And I think, to some extent, I think he's correct that John's not responsible. I don't think John killed JonBenet, or at least I don't think he delivered the blow that made it so that she wasn't coming back.

but he even says, and I, and as I, as I highlighted in the video, John Ramsey, you're either a very good liar or you're telling me the truth, something along those lines. And as we know from multiple police reports, John Ramsey lies.

but he even says, and I, and as I, as I highlighted in the video, John Ramsey, you're either a very good liar or you're telling me the truth, something along those lines. And as we know from multiple police reports, John Ramsey lies.

I will say this again and again, the only thing in this case that even makes it remotely a question that, that the Ramseys did it is the DNA. As I, as I've gotten further and further along into the case, There's just no other potentially responsible party. Unless you assume somebody else was allowed into the home that night.

I will say this again and again, the only thing in this case that even makes it remotely a question that, that the Ramseys did it is the DNA. As I, as I've gotten further and further along into the case, There's just no other potentially responsible party. Unless you assume somebody else was allowed into the home that night.