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The Bizarre Psychology of the Ramsey Family | Podcast Episode 166

Thu, 24 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: What happened to Pope Francis?

2.327 - 25.858 Matt

All right. Happy Easter Monday, everyone. He is risen, but the Pope is not. R-I-P? R-I-H? That was not probably the best way of breaking that news. But yes, Pope Francis has passed on. It probably wasn't J.D. Vance's fault, but it's kind of funny that people are saying that it is. The timeline we live in is quite a thing.

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26.039 - 27.059 Co-host (unnamed)

Remarkably entertaining.

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27.2 - 46.435 Matt

Yeah. I do want to open up today's episode with the verse of the Bible. that was read at both of our different services. I went to an Anglican Catholic service. He went to a Roman Catholic service. No Anglican Catholics are not in communion with Rome or, in fact, the Church of England.

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46.696 - 47.096 Co-host (unnamed)

Interesting.

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47.136 - 60.647 Matt

Yeah, I'm enjoying it very much. As I said on Twitter yesterday, I believe I have found my home. It's literally split off from the Episcopal Church. It is an entirely American Protestant high church.

60.988 - 62.049 Co-host (unnamed)

Do they still do communion there?

62.189 - 87.089 Matt

Yeah. interesting yeah it was great i loved it loved every minute of it uh but yes so i the the pope is gone um he just say it oh he's done i gotta say i think it was intentional on the pope oh me too that's what i was gonna say next is this man literally held out for easter he did he that was good on him Good on him. And I joke a little bit. I got to poke fun at the Roman Catholics a little.

87.609 - 107.762 Matt

For all my disagreements with Pope Francis, I do believe he was a good man and a well-intentioned man. I like that a major part of his reign as Pope was to try and bring the East and the West closer together and seek reconciliation. All jokes aside, for any disagreements I had with him, the man I...

108.562 - 132.707 Matt

The man had a mission that I think was very important for Christianity, and I hope he will be remembered for the good he did rather than some of the more controversial things he said within the Christian community. So I am wishing all of the Catholics in the world the best. I understand that there's a lot of mourning happening at the moment, but the good news is there will be a new pope soon.

Chapter 2: What did the Bible say about Easter?

303.703 - 305.345 Co-host (unnamed)

But Minecraft probably does save lives.

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305.685 - 328.786 Matt

Minecraft probably does save lives. But yeah, so obviously today we're going to be talking about the just odd behavior of the Ramses and also the fact that somehow... The profiler, the John Douglas, the mind hunter himself, did not see through several very obvious lies.

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329.147 - 341.621 Co-host (unnamed)

Well, to be fair, and I was thinking about this both while editing it and rewatching it, You mentioned it in the video, but I think it's a key point of contention where a lot of the things that you've pointed out as lies, both in that.

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341.681 - 343.402 Matt

Oh, he didn't know. He didn't have the information.

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343.423 - 344.123 Co-host (unnamed)

He wasn't aware.

344.524 - 345.084 Matt

No, not at all.

345.104 - 352.751 Co-host (unnamed)

So it's not that he didn't pick up on a lie. It's that he wasn't even really given enough access to be able to discover them. Yeah, per se.

352.831 - 371.595 Matt

Oh, yeah, for sure. So also, just as we're getting started with tonight's show, because super chats have become something that gets a little out of hand. Which we're grateful for. Which we're very grateful for. We will, if we get to 8.30, we're going to go to Super Chats relatively early, probably 7.45. If we get to 8.30 p.m.

372.336 - 393.082 Matt

and I, sorry, we are going to start by answering Super Chats that came in before 7.45. If we get to 8.30 p.m. and there are still Super Chats left over that came in before 7.45, we will answer those, but we will not answer things that came in after 7.45 because then it just gets to a point where it's, The show will go on until 10.

Chapter 3: What are the odd behaviors of the Ramsay family?

3596.773 - 3617.812 Co-host (unnamed)

I'm not going to handle that one. We have Catholics. We know that we can let handle that one. Yeah. Shepard, back again for $10, says, I lied. This is the last one. It wasn't because you followed it up later. Really loved watching you shred people on TikTok who were claiming that Easter was pagan. You providing sources and them going, nuh-uh. It was amazing. Somebody told me Passover isn't Jewish.

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3622.634 - 3640.664 Matt

Mm hmm. Really? But by far, my favorite was the people who saw Easter isn't pagan as like a big sticker on the screen and then proceeded to comment something which I directly refuted in the video using sources. I will say the amount like they did not watch the whole video before.

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3640.984 - 3648.969 Co-host (unnamed)

The amount of comments that I see on social posts where it is blatantly clear that they didn't watch any of the video that they're commenting on is wild.

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3649.289 - 3677.539 Matt

yeah it's the headline effect that's the thing is like I know we live in the Henleiden era but like good lord yeah I mean it's and the thing is I saw it more this year than ever before the whole Easter is pagan thing what I didn't know until recently is that's literally Nazi propaganda oh oh yeah it was something the Nazis came up with in order to undermine the Catholic Church incredible of course it was yeah

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3677.941 - 3698.258 Matt

So they were like, what didn't you know that actually Easter is based on a pagan goddess? One of my other favorites is the people who are like, actually, Easter is based off of a Germanic goddess. And then they give the same argument to people who say that Easter is based off of Ishtar, a Mesopotamian goddess give. And like they're...

3698.698 - 3718.823 Matt

There's even people who are like Christians were like, no, Easter isn't pagan. Yeah, we did get the bunnies and the eggs from like the celebration of Estra, but that's that's it. No, not even that. The eggs come from Lent because people would abstain from animal products during Lent and then hard boil the eggs at the end and then eat them as part of the Lenten feast.

3719.903 - 3752.428 Matt

Or in the case of in 1290, Edward Longshanks was like, you know, it'd be fun. Decorated eggs. Give me 450 of them, which probably means that the practice had originated slightly earlier, but that's just the first documented version. 1290 A.D. Bede was writing in the 700s that there used to be a festival. Used to be. In the 700s. And there's no further description of what the festival involved.

3752.868 - 3771.035 Matt

The time between, yeah, the time between Edward Longshanks ordering some eggs and Bede saying there used to be a festival is longer than the amount of time the United States has been settled by Western Europeans. Yeah.

3772.934 - 3783.532 Matt

The time between the death of Augustus Caesar and the fall of Rome is shorter than the time between Edward Longshanks ordering decorated eggs and Bede saying there used to be a festival.

Chapter 4: How did the investigation into JonBenét Ramsey's death unfold?

5682.186 - 5686.069 Matt

I also got curious about what weapons would have been used during the Spanish-American War.

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5687.59 - 5688.811 Co-host (unnamed)

Probably still would have been flintlocks.

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5703.412 - 5701.832 Co-host (unnamed)

4440.

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5703.692 - 5704.232 Matt

Interesting.

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5704.772 - 5706.073 Co-host (unnamed)

Yeah, the Single Action Armies are nice.

5706.553 - 5708.373 Matt

Oh, I might need to get myself.

5710.354 - 5711.654 Co-host (unnamed)

I mean, that was the cowboy gun.

5714.378 - 5733.011 Matt

what the remington the single action army yeah yeah i i might need to get myself a model 1890 let me see it oh that's pretty like that is and i love remington that's that's so pretty oh

5736.368 - 5757.332 Co-host (unnamed)

uh jmo i can't read that but thank you it's jacket has been a member he said call me caesar the way i get penetrated by a gang of men We didn't have to say.

Chapter 7: How did John Douglas approach the Ramsey case?

5009.674 - 5010.855 Matt

But there's not enough information.

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5010.935 - 5037.585 Co-host (unnamed)

Yeah. Yeah, it could be a good way to cover it. Hobosam21 for $11.70. What a name. Specificity. Says, why would someone not report an abandoned car? Because it could bring unnecessary tow bills and charges. I leave empty cars be. Could we have video clips volume? Last episode's interview, match Aiden's. Uh, yeah. Yeah. video clips volume. I don't remember playing a video.

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5037.765 - 5058.979 Matt

I understand what you're saying, but I don't recall what in the video, probably the stuff where Burke was talking versus when I was talking, I did match it. I don't know. I check and see if YouTube has the volume leveling on, on your computer. Cause they added a setting where YouTube tries to do like audio stability or something, which really screw it's.

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5059.099 - 5063.722 Matt

I think the idea is to fix that, but sometimes it doesn't fix that.

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5064.164 - 5069.748 Co-host (unnamed)

Yeah, I intentionally edited the audio because it was too low initially, so I had to bump it up to match where your levels were.

5069.968 - 5070.829 Matt

Yeah.

5071.469 - 5071.669 Co-host (unnamed)

Yeah.

5072.39 - 5088.38 Matt

It was fine on our end. And, yeah, sometimes the way it plays on YouTube versus the way that we actually edited and exported the video was different for some reason. Yeah. But, I mean, I don't see how you're on, I don't think you're on the hook for tow bills if you report a demanded car.

5088.581 - 5089.181 Co-host (unnamed)

Absolutely not.

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