Matthew Cox

So a couple days later, they would take the mice and stick them back in the water.

I see what they're doing.

How long do you think they... Afterwards, how long do you think that they could tread water?

Hope.

Fucking amazing.

It was like 26 hours or something.

It was like so over... You could probably check.

It's probably... But it's not like two hours.

It was outrageously long.

It was like... Even thinking about that experiment disturbs me.

It makes me feel sick, a little sick.

But...

I was just like the idea of, and I, you know, I used to always say hope is what gets you through like, and guys would say, cause Pete would always say, you know, hope isn't a strategy.

And I was like, yeah, but hope will get you through it.

Yeah.

And, and that's really in the, are you looking it up?

How long was it?

So the ones I've heard on TikTok, which is accurate always, it was like 30 – it was like around 30 minutes.

Yeah, so I've heard different videos because once I saw it once, I was like, what the fuck?

So I looked up a few of them, and I felt like on average it was like 30 minutes, and then the next one was like –