Matthew Cox

Like, where people pay to be taught?

Or are you just saying people need to meditate?

to extremes and extreme?

What about...

I'm trying to think that makes me say actually the opposite of the ice guy.

There was a guy who did like sweat lodges and he would.

Yeah, I was going to say the Grant Cardone, it seems like the whole Grant Cardone, you know,

you get the, he initially, he said, it sounds like a bunch of really good stuff.

And then when it does, if it doesn't work out, it's because you're not doing it right because you need special, you need special classes for you to really focus in on this.

And so pay, sign up for my $2,200 course.

And then if that doesn't work and it, you know, it always,

You're always on the cusp of winning, and if it's not working out, it's because it's you, not us, not me.

Right.

So what other books?

So you've written six books.

Over the course of how long?

I'm saying over what, the last 20 years?

Your shortest book, what is that?

I always feel horrible when I wake up after a nap.

Is that the book behind you that says dream?