Matthew Cox

What do you mean?

I mean, I felt like the going from one prison to another with your paperwork, hooping your paperwork and walking onto the, I thought that sounds, that's insane.

Like I was like, because in my experience,

which is limited to a couple prisons.

But when a new guy would get there, these guys would step to him and say, hey, man, first of all, they don't expect you to have your paperwork.

And so they'd be like, look, you got a couple weeks to get your paperwork in.

And some of the guys would be like, oh, well, as soon as I get my stuff, I'll have it.

And other ones are like, no, no, no, my family's already mailing it in.

I can get it.

But you're not supposed to have it.

You're not allowed to have it.

So if they catch it in the mailroom, they're going to send it back to your family or whoever.

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I know that after COVID, everything I heard about the low at Coleman, and just Coleman in general, was like half the guards quit because COVID was just rampant inside the prison.

And guards start, your buddies start getting it, and one or two guys die, and you just go, I'm done.

I'm not staying here.

Like everybody here is getting COVID.

And they couldn't stop it, right?

So what happens when all those guards quit,

In a way, you'd think, oh, well, they just hired more guards.