Matthew Cox

So what was the plan?

I mean, how do you convince somebody to – so someone's going to take a helicopter, fly it in, land, pick you guys up, and leave.

So you're afraid what?

She's going to come in and you're not going to be on the rec yard.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, he... So...

I only mention it because he was in Miami and his he and his brother had paid to hire a guy who trained.

They trained him to be a helicopter pilot and break him out.

And Ben Kramer, that didn't work out well either.

That guy actually landed in the little wreckyard in Miami and was landing and he runs up and.

He apparently had gained like 80 pounds or 100 pounds.

And so when he goes to climb in the chopper, he reaches in to pull himself in and he actually grabs the stick, like the elevator stick, thinking it's just a piece of the chopper and grabs it and yanks it.

And it starts to swoop.

The helicopter swings around and the back tail part of it hits the fence and it flips it over.

And throws him and the helicopter pilot outside of the fence.

I mean, the one guy, like, I think, I don't know if Kramer broke his leg or something.

The pilot broke a couple, broke his leg, his arm, some ribs and stuff.

And he, you know, there's not much you can do to Ben Kramer.

He was already screwed.