Matthew Cox

After three semesters of that, I realized love Jesus, hate the rules.

I'm going to go to LA and become a standup comic.

Oh man.

I know.

That's why I'm not one now.

So yeah,

Yeah, so I went out there and I had a cousin that went out there, cousins a year younger than me, went out there to be a drummer.

So I followed a year later.

And when I did, I worked for a movie survey company and a video store.

And then I met a girl, married her, still married to this day.

But she said, you should probably find a job where you can start helping pay the bills.

So I asked my dad, I said, do you know anybody out in Los Angeles who does what you do?

you know, hunting people, selling fakes out in LA.

So he hooked me up with a job and I start working for a place called National Trademark Investigations in Los Angeles.

And that was when I started actually my professional foray into counterfeiting.

Okay.

So I have a question real quick.

Yeah, that's a good question and good insight too, because that is what happens.

And in some cases, the brands don't always, they prefer to go straight to the police because then there's no money out of their pocket hiring us first.

A lot of times what happens is whether they get the lead