Matthew Cox

So if if I can't, you know, and I always work from an open source standpoint, you know, I'm tracking this guy based on the data that I get from him.

You know what I mean?

And if I can't track him down using my 30 year bag of tricks, then I'll provide the subpoena info to the client and say, well, here's where you can take it further.

And they can go to the registrar for the domain or to YouTube for the user info, things like that.

And even to the banks for the credit card charge.

And all that kind of stuff.

And, you know, it's interesting.

And I know we could talk about so many different things because, again, you're very familiar with the financial side of it.

The Chinese folks now, they, you know, and I'm talking.

Well, first, I want to tell you that there are two types of counterfeits.

There are deceptive and non-deceptive.

OK, the deceptive counterfeits are really the danger.

Non-deceptive counterfeits.

I don't care what anybody says, child labor and all that stuff.

And I'm quoted because they're industry talking points.

I'm quoted saying, yeah, there's child labor and stuff.

But, you know, even legitimate companies are accused of child labor in China.

But but the non-deceptive are like I say, the big four, you know, purses, handbags, watches and jerseys.

Those are the four massive products, massive markets out there that everybody knows it's fake.

They know they're getting something on the man and they're getting a break on something.