Matthew Cox

And Joseph Cotton –

the character's name joseph cotton goes to vienna looking for him because he turned out he supposedly was dead but there was no body so anyway he finds him and harry turns out to be a crook and this is during world war ii and what harry's doing is selling counterfeit um penicillin to children's hospitals and rerouting the genuine stuff to other places you know

and there's a famous scene in the ferris wheel where they go up in his old-fashioned ferris wheel where you go up other people get in then you go up and other people get in so they're at the top of the ferris wheel and he goes listen old chap look at those ants moving down there he's referring to people yeah he goes what if i gave you 30 000 pounds for every one of those ants or dots maybe he said that stopped moving would you really care

And to me, that's the best example of someone who gets something over on the consumer.

And the further you distance yourself from the crime, the more they just look like ants or dots.

Right.

As these children are dying in the hospitals and things.

Anyway, I'm not trying to give a sob story on that, but I've always thought that that was the greatest example in my business for people who sell the deceptive fakes.

When people think that they're taking diabetes medication or, you know, cancer medication turns out to be saline and things like that.

That's actually, believe it or not, much more common than the watches and the T-shirts and all that kind of stuff.

Right.

And if I recall that film, isn't there something ironic about it where someone dies for someone you know?

Professionally, since my adulthood, since 95.

Yeah, I mean, some of the older cases were really fun.

Because again, the factories and the warehouses were all

in the cities, you know, in the city you're in.

So we're we're in Los Angeles and L.A.

is a major garment, you know, producer.

So even to this day, a lot of brands make their stuff in the USA.

They're in L.A.