Matthew Cox

And there was another guy named Lance Atkinson that was a part of this too that I didn't work on.

I think some of my work product helped, but it was Lance Atkinson in New Zealand.

But anyway, that all led up to this guy named Oleg Nikolenko.

And he was in Russia, scot-free, and he decided to go to Vegas for some odd reason.

He went to Vegas for, I don't know what show it was, if it was for DEFCON or some conference, but he went to Vegas and got busted by the marshals.

That's how he got caught.

So that was basically how we went from spam being your inbox, being more spam than regular emails and all counterfeit watches to being tameable and having a lot less of that stuff in there.

It was that raid and that FBI action that I helped with that basically tamed the spam world to a livable volume.

I never know the end of the story.

Well, I bet you some of that's in his Wikipedia.

Yeah.

Some of that's in his Wikipedia.

I just work so many cases that they start to just kind of pile on top of each other.

You know, I'm working a big one now and

you know, I don't even know if I'm going to know where that guy goes because you know, the cases, you know, I'm onto the next case before court.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And if I do my job right, I'm not going to have to testify, you know, in most cases.

I mean, obviously you have lawyers that are going to be a pain in the behind and make me testify anyway.

But for the most part, my evidence is stipulated because I do a good job and even the opposing counsel really can't poke that many holes in it.