Matthew Cox

The second case, I cooperated.

Because I realized then that's just stupid.

Well, the first case, my lawyer said, go get like 10 files, 10 of the most egregious, fraudulent files you have.

to five or six of your brokers, bring them in, cooperate with the FBI, we'll get them indicted and I can keep you from being indicted at all.

And of course I said, I'm not gonna do that.

I thought I was a fucking gangster.

And I didn't do it.

In retrospect, I should have because they all cooperated against me, and I didn't realize that that's really just the smartest thing to do is to just immediately – in a lot of cases, if you could realize people are getting busted around you, the smartest thing is to go to the FBI first because I know what's coming down my way.

Let me come in.

Work out a deal with an attorney.

I'll cooperate.

I don't need to be indicted.

That happens.

But you, your family, the priest, everybody's like, no, cooperate.

You don't need a lawyer.

Do the right thing.

They'll look out for you.

And the truth is, they're just not always looking out for you.

You don't know.

But you don't know in general.