Matthew Cox

I was like, oh, OK, I didn't realize that.

So I kind of tailor.

I talk more about social engineering.

But when I was done with that, the industry as a whole are kind of computer geeks and they're all in there.

20s 20s early 30s maybe and it was like a being a rock star i mean i must have taken 30 or 40 selfies yeah guys are getting together taking pictures with me i mean nobody at the nobody at the credit union convention wanted a selfie yeah these guys are like i can watch all your stuff can i get a selfie man i'm like

This is nuts.

And even their setup, like they had smoke machines.

It wasn't like a podium.

They're all wearing earpieces, and they've got like a light show.

They did.

I didn't.

They might have.

They were playing.

I didn't give them music or anything.

I understand you actually have like a slideshow.

I just get up and start talking.

And they always ask, like, do you have a PowerPoint?

No.

And so that person to me, I've had that question.

And unlike like you, like I mean, I, you know, you're like you're saying you're kind of an introvert.